Presently Saved vs. Waiting for Forgiveness

After engaging in coversation with an individual who believes good works, water baptism, and other righteousness acts(as compared to simply trusting the Gospel found in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, which clearly says that Jesus died for our sins and ressurected; believe and trust – Ephesians 1:13), I gave him a comparison that is crucial for any man or woman on this planet to understand when it comes to know what is necessary to be saved. Here is the response….

Thank you for your response. I would like to mention that the only 2 Verses you have listed that have anything to do with salvation are the first two(which were Ephesians 2:8-9 & Ephesians 1:7), whereas the rest of the list is talking about the desired conduct of a saint.
Salvation, in the dispensation of grace, is a free gift, not an earned reward. The specific truth that you can only find in the Pauline epistles is that with the dispensation of grace, we are presently “saved.” No other Apostle in our Bible talks of present forgiveness.

Colossians 2:13
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Ephesians 4:32
And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.

Ephesians 1:13-14
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Ephesians 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

There are many others….

The point is though, Peter and the Apostles to the Jews all spoke of and preached about a future forgiveness. One clear passage of this truth is found in early Acts:

Acts 3:19
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, THAT YOUR SINS MAY BE BLOTTED OUT, “when” the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;(emphasis is mine)

There is a huge disconnect of understanding when we mix the epistles of Paul with the epistles to the Hebrews (including Matthew, Mark, Luke and John). Paul is the only preacher that spoke of present salvation. This is the necessity of the ability to “rightly divide the word of truth.”


If you don’t understand that God is doing something different today that started when God revealed unto the Apostle Paul the “Dispensation of Grace,” you will unknowingly mix law and grace, works and faith, and Israel with the Body of Christ. Do you know how to rightly divide your bible? It’s necessary if you want to correctly follow the instructions God has given for this dispensation.

Good places to start might include visiting

midactstruth.comĀ and

It’s not about “who’s” right as much as it is about “what’s” right!

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